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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 5, 2012 1:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: song/year

Great question!

Most GD tunes are probably associated in my mind with particular periods, but only vaguely: e.g., I might have an opinion on when they were at their "best," or which I prefer, but it's not an INTENSE association.

There are a few, though, that really do have a powerful time association for me. One is Estimated. I associate that with summer, and also associate it strongly with the '77 sound. I think that's for a couple of reason: the song itself was new then; I was new to hearing the band the next year (and I think I used to hear it pretty often on tapes from '77, so the "sound" is "right" to me and I have personal memories that "click" with it); and those really may happen to be the very best versions.

Anyway, a "real" Estimated to me is a '77 Estimated, and '77 also makes me think of Estimated (at least in part.) Like this one:

'77 also means a '77 St Stephen, and while that's not my favorite type of a Stephen, it definitely signifies the year to me. A wonderful stretch I listened to just last night (hot weather having prompted me into an Estimated mode) is on DP 10, 12/29/77, from Estimated to Eyes to Stephen.

Funny that you actually tagged a few of the songs there that I do have a strong "year associations" with, and I agree with you ...

It Must Have Been the Roses is very '78 to me, somehow. Scarlet > Fire seems particularly "right" then, too (77-79ish).

And both Jack Straw and MI Half-Step do seem to "signify" '79. (I also think the best Minglewoods are '79, but I don't necessarily THINK "'79" when I think of Minglewood, if that makes sense. Whereas Jack Straw and Mississippi Half-Step do sort of "mean" that era to me.)

I also agree with Eyes > China Doll as a great choice for '74. (Well, all of those are good choices, but I might come up with different ones for some of the others ... that one is perfect, though, IMO.)

I think my list for It Just Seems Very 1970 would have to include this Dancin:

My '69 would have to include Doin That Rag.

'67 would need a Viola.

Maybe think of more later ...

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2012-06-05 08:28:17

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 5, 2012 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: song/year

It was a multi-faceted question,which you picked up on and answered accordingly,how some songs represent a year in your mind because they sounded good that year or for other reasons such as debut or personal circumstances.We seem to be in agreeance on a number of songs,I also thought the same Dancin' from 5-6-70 would have been a fine choice and was kickin' around the idea of Doin' That Rag from 5-10-69 or 6-5-69.Estimated would have also been a fine choice for 77',5/18,6/9,11/1 all are fine versions and definitely have a full-on 77' vibe.The choices I made were what I think are extraordinary performances of songs that also capture what the band was about in that year.Thanks for an interesting response.